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This article first appeared in Kicks magazine, January 1982

Going Their Own Way

Huw Collingbourne chats to Duran Duran about stardom, society, and hot steamy nights with Simon Le Bon.

When their first single, 'Planet Earth', brought Duran Duran to the public's attention in the spring of 1981, a lot of people dismissed them as a mere sub-Spandau rip-off trying to cash in on the New Romantic craze.

'People seem to feel much happier if they can fit you into a category.' Nick Rhodes thinks, 'In fact! the only similarity between us and Spandau was that we both used to wear frilly shirts . . . and I suppose our drum sounds were quite similar too.

'But nobody makes these comparisons any more, thank goodness. They can see now that we are very different groups. And anyway, Spandau have now moved on to the new fad - imitation funk. We don't want to be any part of that.'

It soon becomes clear when talking to these lads that they would hate to be thought 'a part' of anything! When Nick Rhodes and John Taylor formed Duran Duran in 1978, they were determined that the band should have a unique and unmistakable identity. To this end, the music which they played was, at first, intentionally very up-to-date and experimental.

'Most people found it totally unacceptable,' Nick explains, 'because we had a clarinet player, a rhythm box' two bass guitars and no lead guitar. It was very obscure. We enjoyed it at the time but eventually we felt we had to move on to something a bit more substantial.

Changes

During the next couple of years the band went through numerous changes before arriving at the present line-up with John Taylor (21) on bass, Andy Taylor (21 ) on guitar, Roger Taylor (21 ) on drums (none of whom, incidentally, are related to each other), Nick Rhodes (19) on synthesiser and Simon Le Bon (23) as vocalist,

'The thing which makes us all work well together,' Nick says, 'is that we are five very different individuals. We all have quite strong personalities. Sometimes this fact means that there's a lot of tension between us, because we all have conflicting ideas. But that only seems to make us work better.'

Simon agrees. 'I'm not a "team sport" type of person,' he says, 'And this is the only team I've felt happy in - because we're all as good as one another and have each other's respect even when we disagree quite strongly.'

Gay?


By their own standards, one of the greatest measures of Duran Duran's success is the broad cross-section of people who come to their concerts. No longer are their audiences restricted to a fashionable young 'Futurist' following, but include everybody from 'twelve-year-old school-kids to forty-year-old executives.'

At our last gig in Sweden the audience were practically all gay skinheads'. Nick tells me. 'It struck us as very peculiar because in Britain we don't seem to attract skinheads at all.'

And gays?

'People used to think that Duran Duran had gay overtones and must. therefore. have an enormous gay following But they discovered that we had more of a girl following than a gay one.

'I suppose we have adopted a certain flamboyance which, for some reason, has always been associated with gay people, and not everybody finds that easy to accept. But again this is just an example of people's attempts to separate everything into categories, to say this is gay but that isn't. It seems very silly to me because, after all, gay people are I exactly the same as everybody else in everything but their sexual habits. The people who insist on this sort of separation must have very closed minds.'

Simon has even more pronounced views on the way that people attempt to categorise one another in recognisable social or sexual groups.

'Society continually tries to make people conform rather than to develop their individuality,' he says, 'It begins when you are very young and you have to try to fulfil your parents' expectations. After that you are forever pushed into becoming a part of various institutions: school, church, college and so on.

'Institutions like that cater only for he majority. They're inflexible and cause an awful lot of pain and damage.'

Rebellious

When Simon was a child his parents wanted him to become an actor and even now he continues to feel some resentment at their attempts to push him in this direction irrespective of his wishes.

'I started doing TV commercials when I was six,' he says, 'Amongst other things I was the boy with the dirty shirt in the Persil advert.

'Then, in my teens, I went through a period of rebellion. I finished A-levels, was a complete failure and went to Art School for a year. I got sick of that because I don't like Art students very much - they're so insular. Besides, it was just another institution.'

But aren't there a lot of restrictions inherent in being famous?

Nick answers that: 'The reverse is true,' he says, 'Fame brings you lots of nice extras - being recognised in the streets, seeing yourself on TV, doing interviews with your favourite magazines, going to a nice restaurant and having the manager turn round to you at the end of the meal and saying "Oh, you don't have to pay for that" . . . silly little things like that!'

Alone

But what about the loss of privacy? Surely there must be times when you wish you could just go out into the street like everybody else without being continually recognised by people you've never even met.

'People in Britain are, on the whole, very considerate,' Simon reckons, 'Even when they recognise you they don't always encroach on your territory. They realise that there are times when you want to be alone.

'From time to time reporters find out things about me I wish they wouldn't. I can't blame them for wanting to do it, though. There's nothing I'm particularly ashamed of and it doesn't worry me what I other people think of me.

'Slowly I'm getting used to the I fact that it is no longer possible for I me to have a private life. You have to make a conscious decision to I give that up when you become a public figure. You don't have any right to a private life.'

Society

Some people might think that rather a high price to pay for fame. After all, isn't there some part of everybody's life which they would rather keep separate from the world at large?

'Only my sleep,' Simon says, 'I sleep a lot. And it can be a bit of a trial when girls phone up at three o'clock in the morning and want me to spend a few hours talking to them or to go out for a drink or something.

'But, to put it in perspective, I think the loss of my privacy is relatively unimportant. What is much more serious is the way in which society affects everyone's personal freedoms. I believe that we are now coming to a point where everything will start to become more and more institutionalised, making people less free to be themselves and live in the way they wish to - or else it may start becoming de-institutionalised, increasing people's freedoms. It could go either way - it's all dependent upon economics and party politics.

'These are the things people should be worried about. But it - wouldn't concern me at all whether or not Bridget Parnell of Islington chooses to write to a popular newspaper about "My Hot And Steamy Nights With Simon on Le Bon" - I'd find that quite funny!'

Duran Duran were doing a photo shoot when I arrived to do this interview. I remember the thing that really impressed me was the way they all sucked in their cheeks and puckered their lips whenever the photographer picked up his camera. It looked like an automatic reaction. Spooky...

Usually you only get a brief time slot when you go to interview a star. Overrun your 20 or 30 minutes and the PR person comes along and turfs you out. My interview with Simon Le Bon wasn't like that at all. It started at about 5:00pm, as I recall. And by 7:30 we were still chatting. I was desperate to get away to have my dinner but Simon kept saying, "No, don't rush. I've got plenty of time..." Well, I thought, I guess it's too good a chance to miss so I carried on in spite of a noisily rumbling tummy. Shame those hours of interview had to be condensed into just one magazine page!

 

Kicks was a short-lived magazine that blended pop coverage with more 'serious' topics such as (in this issue): Masturbation, 'How a 17 Year old spent his summer in a detention centre' and 'Coping with alcoholic parents'. The cover story here is 'Banned: What you weren't allowed to see and hear over the last 25 years'. The cover pic is a grainy photo of Spandau Ballet who'd recently been cavorting more or less naked while making the video for their single, 'Paint Me Down'.



 

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