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LEEE
JOHN
Beyond Imagination…
Huw Collingbourne talks sex, drugs and rock’n’roll to jazz-singing
child prodigy, Leee John…

This is now....
Leee looking suave, trendy and street cool... |
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I last spoke to Leee John in 1981. His group, Imagination, were
riding high in the charts with In And Out Of Love and
I was interviewing him for a teen magazine called Flexipop! As
far as I can remember, the sole subject of the interview was -
sex…
Leee hoots with laughter when I tell him this.
“Well, what do you expect?” he says, “That
was almost twenty-five years ago, after all!”
You mean, twenty-five years ago, you were obsessed with sex?
“I can understand that I might have been. But I think it
was probably due to the questions you were asking. When people
talked to us in the early ‘80s they were thinking of Body
Talk and the outfits we wore and the provocativeness of the
performance and the sexy legs and all that sort of thing. It wasn’t
really me talking about sex. It was the questions we were asked!”
Yes, well, maybe…
But then, that’s hardly surprising. I mean, when you recall
the outfits that Imagination ‘wore’ (but only just!)
and the outrageously sexy dance routines which, according to legend,
had to be toned down before the BBC would even let them on Top
Of The Pops - well, what other subject was there to talk about!
Imagination’s image was all about sex, wasn’t it…?
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“It was the times,” Leee says, “It
was just fun. It was theatrical and we had a great time. People
were daring with their outfits then. Not any more though. These
days everyone just seems to wear baggy clothes and jeans - the
people on the stage look just like anyone on the street.”
Non-Stop
You say it was fun. Do you think that sense of fun explains why
the ‘80s as a whole have suddenly come back into fashion?
“Yes, probably. It was the last great period of music and
design. And remember, another important fact is that AIDS really
came into the whole situation in the mid-80s. And a lot of creative
people in the business died. Musicians, costume designers, make-up
artists, many of them passed away. And all of a sudden you had
a lot of people who were very scared.
“We’d gone over the States in about ’83 and
we were told that there was a disease going around that was primarily
in the gay community and President Reagan was ignoring it. It was
one of those situations where, if you were gay or you were straight,
you don’t go with anybody in America. That was what was being
said, anyway. That sense of fear took away a lot of the fun that
had gone before.”
I must admit that I hadn’t been aware of what Leee had been
up to since the ‘80s. To me, his new album, Feel My Soul,
seemed to come out of the blue. Maybe he’d just been taking
it quietly for the last decade or so….? |
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...and that was then  Leee crouching at the centre while Ashley and Errol - well,
we're not quite sure what Ashley and Errol are doing.... |
“You
must be kidding!” he says, “It’s never ever stopped
for me. There’s more to life than England, you know. Imagination
broke up after Errol, the drummer, left in the late '80s and Ashley left
in the '90s. The last Imagination album was called The
Fascination of The Physical. It was strange. It was as if everyone
in the studio was trying to find ‘what is the Imagination sound?’ It’s
a good album - there are some really interesting tracks on there - but
the people I was working with at the time didn’t have a proper
understanding.
“In
some ways, the end of Imagination came as a relief. For ten years or
so, I had walked and talked in threes. Eventually I thought I’ve
got to do things for myself. As soon as I decided to do that I started
having a lot more fun. I didn’t always have to be worrying oh
what’s
Ashley up to? Where’s Errol? When you’re in a group and you’re
chief cook and bottle washer it’s more pressure than people think.
I still carried on doing shows for a while. But at the same time I started
doing production, I had my own chat show on Night Network. And in the ‘90s
I had loads of dance hits.
“Even
so, the '90s for me wasn’t a very enjoyable time. It was
like retirement in a sense. I ended up working with loads of different
producers, I actually sang on a track for Take That… oh, I did
loads of crap. I was doing stuff I didn’t want to do. Music wasn’t
as creative in the ‘90s as it had been before. The technology was
taking over. In the studio we always had the latest hardware, the latest
software but it just wasn’t as creative.”
Leee
is now reshaping his career as a solo artist. His new album is musically
far removed from the Imagination sound. It is a jazz album on which Leee
sings thirteen songs ranging from classics such as Someone
to Watch Over Me and Strange Fruit to new material.
This dramatic change in direction is obviously a big risk. Many people
associate Leee with Imagination and might be expecting him to sing the
hits from the '80s.
“Well,
maybe I will sing those hits too,” he says, “Imagination
will never be at an end. I’m opening new doorways. But I do sing
some of the old Imagination songs too. People still want to hear them.
“If
people know your songs when you perform live it’s easier for you
in a way. But for me at the present time, I’m often performing
tracks from Feel My Soul. People come along who know me from Imagination
and other people come along who don’t know me at all or who maybe
just saw me on the Reborn in the USA show on TV. There are even people
who know me from the more underground kind of dance records. I had a
number one recently in Pete Tong’s Dance Charts. Isn’t that
unbelievable!”

A typical Imagination magazine spread (here from Kicks)
What is that thing that Leee is almost wearing....?
Born Again
Maybe
Leee’s enthusiasm for taking on new challenges and going in new
directions can be explained by the fact that he’s been in show
business practically all his life. He first started performing at the
age of twelve. Ah, I bet he was a cutie…!
“Well,
I wasn’t like Bonnie Langford!” he snaps, “But yes,
it’s true that it all started from my early teens. As a kid I used
to perform in pubs and bingo halls - all over the place - singing all
different styles of music. I lived in the States for about five years
and in that period I was signed to a record company and I had the chance
to do an off-Broadway show called The Me Nobody
Knows. But my father
pulled me out of it because he felt I needed to do my school work.”
Sensible
chap, I suggest.
“I
never forgave him! I even remember the songs I sang at my audition -
Close To You, Me and Bobby McGee by Janis Joplin
and Over
The Rainbow. I used to write a lot too. I did part-time journalism
when I was at school. And on weekends I’d play with bands. I was
always gigging. I was in a band called The Sun Valley Serenaders. I use
to do universities and colleges where they didn’t know who the
Hell I was. And you just have to work it. That’s what makes you
a better performer. It wasn’t like it is nowadays. These days you’re
in the studio one day and the next day you’re playing Wembley.”
In
more recent times, one of the things that helped to bring Leee back to
the attention of the British public was his participation in Reborn
In The USA - a ‘reality’ TV show in which various
seasoned performers had to try to wow American audiences.
“Doing
that show was a risk, I suppose,” Leee concedes, “But it
was also fun. Big Brother had just been successful and we didn’t
have any idea of what Reborn was going to be like. I’ve taken risks
ever since I’ve been in this industry. I mean, think of Imagination
- the way out outfit were years ago. We were trying to take it to another
level. So I thought, take a deep break, it’s another risk - just
walk the plank and see how far it goes…
“It
was interesting. But all the so called cat-fights they said were going
on amongst us and that - no, it wasn’t really like that. It was
all being built up. One producer was trying to get the crew members who
were filming us to try to build up tension all the time. But most of
us knew the ropes - we’d been working at this for twenty-odd years
so it was all rock’n’roll to us.”
It
could have been worse - at least you didn’t have to wade up to
through pools of poo like Toyah when they sent her to the jungle in I’m
A Celebrity…
“Exactly!
Well, OK, that’s great for endurance. But for me I know what my
strengths are. Wading through poo isn’t one of them!
I like to end up doing what I do best which, is performing.”
One
of the things that strikes you when you see Leee is how little he’s
changed since the early '80s. OK, so the shaved head had replaced
the elaborate hair-dos of yesteryear. But he’s weathered the years
remarkably well. Unlike, it has to be said, many of his contemporaries…
“I
do work at it,” he says, “I swim, I exercise. I do the things
that I know I need to do. I think we all had our ‘rock and roll
period’. I’m very lucky though - I never did drugs. I knew
loads of people who did coke and smokes and stuff. But that wasn’t
me.”
Whatever
his secret is, it’s obviously working. It will be interested to
see which new directions Leee’s career will take from here on.
“Well,
it was good talking again after almost twenty-five years,” I tell
him as we wrap up our chat, “How about doing another interview
in another twenty-five years?”
“Sure,” he
says, “It’s a date!”
I've put it my diary, Leee, so don't try to wriggle out of it...!
November 2005

Visit Leee on the web
http://www.leeejohn.com/
http://www.feelmysoul.co.uk/
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